Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-01.txt
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Subject: Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-01.txt
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Hiya, On 12/03/2021 21:24, Tommy Jensen wrote: > Summary, my personal dead horse: if we do want networks to be able to > communicate policy to a client in a way that can be differentiated > from an attacker, it should be more general than DNS and it should be > not in ADD. FWIW, I think the above is correct. That said, we have some serious obstacles in the way of figuring out how to do that. For example, I don't think we even know the potential set of possible policies for when there's a "smart speaker" and a house-guest involved, never mind how to possibly represent, secure and process those in some electronic format. There is also a danger that we encode our last decade's idea of policy into a protocol in such a way that we make it hard to move beyond that in the next decade. That doesn't mean we ought ignore 2010-style policies but I think it does imply a lot of care ought be taken before we follow the "obvious" route for expressing those "obvious" policies. So, I'd also argue for extreme minimalism in ADD on the dual basis that we really don't yet know what's right for the near future while at the same time we can be pretty confident that the set of policies that were used in the recent past and that are still validly used likely isn't quite the right guide. Cheers, S.
- [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-red… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Andrew Campling
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXT] Re: New Version Notification for … Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Andrew Campling
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy