Re: [Asrg] Summary/outline of why the junk button idea is pre-failed

["Chris Lewis" <[e-mail]>]

On 3/2/2010 12:12 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote:

> There is one argument, not made by Kulawiec that does deserve a response.
> That is the underlying problem with the TIS button that is real. It will
> generate ARFs that are really just list-unsubscribe requests from
> perfectly legitimate sources. It will generate these in large numbers and
> it will be impractical to reduce them with user education. Anyone
> proposing to process the flood of such messages will have to come up with
> an economical way of doing so that doesn't inconvenience the list owners.

Having the report recipient automatically utilize the list unsubscribe 
headers present in the headers immediately comes to mind.

> In fact, I think most of the opposition to the TIS button comes from the
> owners of such lists who feel they would be the victims. To some extent
> they are justified - they are following the rules, why should they pay a
> penalty. But if the penalty were a small change in their operation, say an
> improvement in the standardization of list-unsubscribe headers - it might
> be justifiable.

I think most of us would be satisfied with improvements in the 
_adoption_ of the existing list unsubscribe headers.