[Asrg] Re: Spam, why is it still a problem?

Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mon, 16 January 2006 16:38 UTC

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Subject: [Asrg] Re: Spam, why is it still a problem?
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Danny Angus wrote:

> 1/ a small number of extremely well thought out and
> intelligent proposals which are being suffocated by
> attemptsto assert some form of commercial control over
> them and a lack of cooperation.
> E.G. Senderid, SPF, DomainKeys, etc

You can use these three examples right now, at least SPF
and PRA (the part of SenderID not already covered by SPF)
are "ready" (= in the RFC editor queue), you're not forced
to wait for a proper RFC number.

But please read and understand the caveats as published in
<http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/?C=M&O=D>

The DKIM WG was chartered a few days ago, for more info see
<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/dkim>

> Spam is not just an ICT problem it is a social problem.

Yes.  But there's definitely a design flaw in post-821 SMTP
as far as most SPF FAIL friends are concerned.  That's of
course highly controversial, many others claim that it's a
feature.  

That's where we enter the deep waters of financial interests.
Parts of the anti-spam industry might not like it if big
chunks of "the problem" are removed, because "the problem"
is their business concept.
                            Bye, Frank



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