[Asrg] Re: Email service assumptions and making system-wide changes
Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mon, 16 January 2006 21:17 UTC
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Subject: [Asrg] Re: Email service assumptions and making system-wide changes
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Dave Crocker wrote in <asrg.ietf.org>: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.asrg/11194> > Some of the above is predictably redundant with > <http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/archived_issues/ipj_8-4/anti-spam_efforts.html>. Hard to predict, because I didn't know this article, only one of its diagrams now saying ADMD instead of AU was a déja-vu. | A common simplification for this model is to use it only | between boundary MTAs, but this considerable constraint is | not specified in SPF. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schlitt-spf-classic#section-9.5 discusses this constraint, and in section 9.3 you find many considerations for the one less obvious case. It's probably unnecessary to mention here that I consider the 1123 5.3.6(a) concept as broken by design, in stark contrast to the same idea in 821 when source routes still existed. Bye _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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