Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your review

Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com> Wed, 31 August 2022 18:13 UTC

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From: Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 20:13:41 +0200
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Subject: Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your review
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Sure, makes sense; we can do that. In that case I'll use the latest HTTP
RFC instead of 1945

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 20:11, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fair enough.  I wonder though if we should have some kind of link to what
> HTTP is anyway, perhaps attached to its first appearance in the prose after
> the introduction.  It really is a normative dependency here, even if it is
> ubiquitous.
>
> -MSK
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:02 AM Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We could, if there was an RFC that says that clients must follow *at
>> least* 5 hops. Unfortunately all I can find is the opposite, follow *up to*
>> 5 hops (because more is likely a loop).
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 19:59, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The new "MUST NOT" is fine.  Rather than deleting it, should we replace
>>> the reference to RFC 1945 with a reference to one of the newer HTTP RFCs?
>>>
>>> -MSK, ART AD
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:39 AM Lynne Bartholomew <
>>> lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Gary, Lizzi, Martijn, and *AD (Murray),
>>>>
>>>> * Murray, please let us know if you approve (1) the removal of
>>>> Normative Ref. RFC 1945 and (2) a new sentence containing "MUST NOT" in
>>>> Section 2.2.4.
>>>>
>>>> Gary, thank you very much for the updated XML files!
>>>>
>>>> Martijn, your contact information in the Authors' Addresses section now
>>>> appears as follows.  Please confirm that this is as desired:
>>>>
>>>>    Martijn Koster (editor)
>>>>    Suton Lane
>>>>    Wymondham, Norfolk
>>>>    NR18 9JG
>>>>    United Kingdom
>>>>    Email: m.koster@greenhills.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> The latest files are posted here:
>>>>
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.txt
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.pdf
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.html
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.xml
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-diff.html
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-rfcdiff.html
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-auth48diff.html
>>>>
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-xmldiff1.html
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-xmldiff2.html
>>>>
>>>> Gary, Lizzi, and Martijn, we have noted your approvals on the AUTH48
>>>> status page:
>>>>
>>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9309
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>> RFC Editor/lb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > From: Gary Illyes <garyillyes=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>>> review
>>>> > Date: August 29, 2022 at 2:41:50 AM PDT
>>>> > To: Martijn Koster <m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>, Henner Zeller <
>>>> henner@google.com>
>>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, lizzi@google.com, Ted Hardie <
>>>> ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>,
>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you. Done on github (
>>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml#L18)
>>>> and attached to this email again.
>>>> >
>>>> > Henner, we need the last LGTM from you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > From: Martijn Koster <m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>
>>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>>> review
>>>> > Date: August 29, 2022 at 2:01:13 AM PDT
>>>> > To: Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
>>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, henner@google.com, lizzi@google.com,
>>>> Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <
>>>> superuser@gmail.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Gary,
>>>> >
>>>> > Please remove my organisation Stalworthy Computing, Ltd  from
>>>> >
>>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml#L18
>>>> >
>>>> > The rest LGTM
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > — Martijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > From: Lizzi Sassman <lizzi=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>>> review
>>>> > Date: August 26, 2022 at 12:58:13 PM PDT
>>>> > To: Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
>>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, Martijn Koster <
>>>> m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>, Henner Zeller <henner@google.com>, Ted
>>>> Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, superuser@gmail.com,
>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>> >
>>>> > The draft LGTM.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Lizzi
>>>>
>>>> > On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Gary Illyes <garyillyes=
>>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you for your edits and review. Lizzi and I addressed the
>>>> comments received and attached the updated XML to this email (also at
>>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml
>>>> )
>>>> >
>>>> > The draft attached looks good to me and from my perspective approved
>>>> for publication.
>>>> >
>>>> > Martijn, Lizzi, Henner, please review this draft and provide feedback
>>>> (probably on GitHub) and/or approval for publication.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 8:24 AM <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
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>>>> >
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>>>> >
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>>>> > --------------------------------------
>>>> > RFC9309 (draft-koster-rep-12)
>>>> >
>>>> > Title            : Robots Exclusion Protocol
>>>> > Author(s)        : M. Koster, Ed., G. Illyes, Ed., H. Zeller, Ed., L.
>>>> Sassman, Ed.
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>>>>
>>>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Gary
>>
> --
Thanks,
Gary