Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your review

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Wed, 31 August 2022 18:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your review
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Fair enough.  I wonder though if we should have some kind of link to what
HTTP is anyway, perhaps attached to its first appearance in the prose after
the introduction.  It really is a normative dependency here, even if it is
ubiquitous.

-MSK

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:02 AM Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com> wrote:

> We could, if there was an RFC that says that clients must follow *at
> least* 5 hops. Unfortunately all I can find is the opposite, follow *up to*
> 5 hops (because more is likely a loop).
>
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 at 19:59, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The new "MUST NOT" is fine.  Rather than deleting it, should we replace
>> the reference to RFC 1945 with a reference to one of the newer HTTP RFCs?
>>
>> -MSK, ART AD
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:39 AM Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Gary, Lizzi, Martijn, and *AD (Murray),
>>>
>>> * Murray, please let us know if you approve (1) the removal of Normative
>>> Ref. RFC 1945 and (2) a new sentence containing "MUST NOT" in Section 2.2.4.
>>>
>>> Gary, thank you very much for the updated XML files!
>>>
>>> Martijn, your contact information in the Authors' Addresses section now
>>> appears as follows.  Please confirm that this is as desired:
>>>
>>>    Martijn Koster (editor)
>>>    Suton Lane
>>>    Wymondham, Norfolk
>>>    NR18 9JG
>>>    United Kingdom
>>>    Email: m.koster@greenhills.co.uk
>>>
>>> The latest files are posted here:
>>>
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.txt
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.pdf
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.html
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309.xml
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-diff.html
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-rfcdiff.html
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-auth48diff.html
>>>
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-xmldiff1.html
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9309-xmldiff2.html
>>>
>>> Gary, Lizzi, and Martijn, we have noted your approvals on the AUTH48
>>> status page:
>>>
>>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9309
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> RFC Editor/lb
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: Gary Illyes <garyillyes=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>> review
>>> > Date: August 29, 2022 at 2:41:50 AM PDT
>>> > To: Martijn Koster <m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>, Henner Zeller <
>>> henner@google.com>
>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, lizzi@google.com, Ted Hardie <
>>> ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>,
>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> >
>>> > Thank you. Done on github (
>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml#L18)
>>> and attached to this email again.
>>> >
>>> > Henner, we need the last LGTM from you.
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: Martijn Koster <m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>
>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>> review
>>> > Date: August 29, 2022 at 2:01:13 AM PDT
>>> > To: Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, henner@google.com, lizzi@google.com,
>>> Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <
>>> superuser@gmail.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> >
>>> > Hi Gary,
>>> >
>>> > Please remove my organisation Stalworthy Computing, Ltd  from
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml#L18
>>> >
>>> > The rest LGTM
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > — Martijn
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: Lizzi Sassman <lizzi=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9309 <draft-koster-rep-12> for your
>>> review
>>> > Date: August 26, 2022 at 12:58:13 PM PDT
>>> > To: Gary Illyes <garyillyes@google.com>
>>> > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, Martijn Koster <
>>> m.koster@greenhills.co.uk>, Henner Zeller <henner@google.com>, Ted
>>> Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, superuser@gmail.com,
>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>> >
>>> > The draft LGTM.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Lizzi
>>>
>>> > On Aug 26, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Gary Illyes <garyillyes=
>>> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for your edits and review. Lizzi and I addressed the
>>> comments received and attached the updated XML to this email (also at
>>> https://github.com/google/robotstxt/blob/master/protocol-draft/rfc9309.xml
>>> )
>>> >
>>> > The draft attached looks good to me and from my perspective approved
>>> for publication.
>>> >
>>> > Martijn, Lizzi, Henner, please review this draft and provide feedback
>>> (probably on GitHub) and/or approval for publication.
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > --------------------------------------
>>> > RFC9309 (draft-koster-rep-12)
>>> >
>>> > Title            : Robots Exclusion Protocol
>>> > Author(s)        : M. Koster, Ed., G. Illyes, Ed., H. Zeller, Ed., L.
>>> Sassman, Ed.
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>>> --
> Thanks,
> Gary
>