Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review
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Hello Editor and coauthors,

I have no objection on Greg's and Tianran's suggestion.



Best Regards,
Zhenqiang Li
China Mobile
li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
 
From: Tianran Zhou
Date: 2024-01-24 11:08
To: Greg Mirsky; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
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Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review
Hi Editor and Greg,
 
I prefer Greg’s change on this.
 
GIM>> Thank you for the question and proposed update. I agree that the first occurence of "tuple" must be singular. The second, as I think of how it works, is about modifying some elements of the 5-tuple. I would propose the following update:
OLD TEXT:
   One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
   member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples.
NEW TEXT:
   A STAMP test session over the LAG can be used to measure the performance of a
   member link using specially-constructed 5-tuple. The session can be used to measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by varying one or more elements  of that 5-tuple.
 
Cheers,
Tianran
 
From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 10:53 AM
To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
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Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review
 
Dear RFC Editor,
thank you for your thoughtful consideration of the document and helpful suggestions to improve it. Please find my responses to your questions below tagged by GIM>>. Please let me know if there are any further questions or actions I should take.
 
Regards,
Greg
 
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:44 AM <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!-- [rfced] We have updated the title of the document by expanding LAG. Please let us know if any changes are necessary.

Original:
 Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for Performance
                           Measurement on LAG

Current:
 Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for Performance
                   Measurement on a Link Aggregation Group
GIM>> I agree with the proposed text. 

-->


2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->


3) <!-- [rfced] Section 1. We would like to clarify the use of "tuple" in the sentence below:

Current:

   One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
   member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples. 

Perhaps (updating "five tuple" to "5-tuple", which is more commonly used; making the first use of "tuple" singular; and changing "varying the five tuples" to "specifying their 5-tuples"): 

   One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
   member link using its fixed 5-tuple, or it can measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by specifying their 5-tuples.
GIM>> Thank you for the question and proposed update. I agree that the first occurence of "tuple" must be singular. The second, as I think of how it works, is about modifying some elements of the 5-tuple. I would propose the following update:
OLD TEXT:
   One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
   member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples.
NEW TEXT:
   A STAMP test session over the LAG can be used to measure the performance of a
   member link using specially-constructed 5-tuple. The session can be used to measure an average of
   some or all member links of the LAG by varying one or more elements  of that 5-tuple.
-->


4) <!-- [rfced] [IEEE802.1AX] 802.1AX-2008 has been superseded by 802.1AX-2014. Would you like to update the reference?

Current:
   [IEEE802.1AX]
              IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
              networks - Link Aggregation", IEEE Std 802.1AX-2008,
              DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2008.4668665, November 2008,
              <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4668665>.
GIM>> Yes, please update the reference to the latest. 
-->


5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online Style Guide 
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
GIM>> I don't find any updates 
-->


6) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
GIM>> All expansions are correct. 
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/jm

On 1/23/24 12:41 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:

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RFC9534 (draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06)

Title            : Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for Performance Measurement on LAG
Author(s)        : Z. Li, T. Zhou, J. Guo, G. Mirsky, R. Gandhi
WG Chair(s)      : Marcus Ihlar, Tommy Pauly
Area Director(s) : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker