Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review

Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com> Thu, 25 January 2024 01:06 UTC

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Hi Jean,

Thanks for your work. I approve the current version of the document.
One nit I want to sync with RFC-to-be 9533.

OLD TEXT:
   All micro sessions of a LAG share the same Sender IP Address and
   Receiver IP Address of the LAG.

NEW TEXT:
   All micro sessions of a LAG share the same Sender IP Address and
   Receiver IP Address.

Best,
Tianran
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Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534 <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review

Zhenqiang, Greg, Tianran,

Thank you for your quick responses! We have updated the document based on your feedback:

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/authors/rfc9534-lastrfcdiff.html

Zhenqiang, we have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9534

The files have been posted here:
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534.txt
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534.pdf
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534.html
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534.xml
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534-diff.html (all changes)
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534-rfcdiff.html (all changes side by side)
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534-auth48diff.html
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9534-alt-diff.html

We will await further word from you and your coauthors regarding other
AUTH48 changes and/or approval.

Best regards,
RFC Editor/jm


On 1/23/24 10:13 PM, li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello Editor and coauthors,
> 
> I have no objection on Greg's and Tianran's suggestion.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Best Regards,
> Zhenqiang Li
> China Mobile
> li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
> 
>     *From:* Tianran Zhou <mailto:zhoutianran@huawei.com>
>     *Date:* 2024-01-24 11:08
>     *To:* Greg Mirsky <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>;
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>     *Subject:* RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534
>     <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review
> 
>     Hi Editor and Greg,
> 
>     I prefer Greg’s change on this.
> 
>     GIM>> Thank you for the question and proposed update. I agree that
>     the first occurence of "tuple" must be singular. The second, as I
>     think of how it works, is about modifying some elements of the
>     5-tuple. I would propose the following update:
> 
>     OLD TEXT:
> 
>         One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
>         member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an average of
>         some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples.
> 
>     NEW TEXT:
> 
>         A STAMP test session over the LAG can be used to measure the
>     performance of a
> 
>         member link using specially-constructed 5-tuple. The session can
>     be used to measure an average of
> 
>         some or all member links of the LAG by varying one or more
>     elements  of that 5-tuple.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Tianran
> 
>     *From:*Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 10:53 AM
>     *To:* rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>     *Cc:* li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com; Tianran Zhou
>     <zhoutianran@huawei.com>; guo.jun2@zte.com.cn; rgandhi@cisco.com;
>     ippm-ads@ietf.org; ippm-chairs@ietf.org; marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com;
>     martin.h.duke@gmail.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>     *Subject:* Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9534
>     <draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06> for your review
> 
>     Dear RFC Editor,
> 
>     thank you for your thoughtful consideration of the document and
>     helpful suggestions to improve it. Please find my responses to your
>     questions below tagged by GIM>>. Please let me know if there are any
>     further questions or actions I should take.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Greg
> 
>     On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:44 AM <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
>     <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
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>         Authors,
> 
>         While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
>         necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
>         1) <!-- [rfced] We have updated the title of the document by
>         expanding LAG. Please let us know if any changes are necessary.
> 
>         Original:
>           Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for
>         Performance
>                                     Measurement on LAG
> 
>         Current:
>           Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol Extensions for
>         Performance
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>     GIM>> I agree with the proposed text.
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>         Current:
> 
>             One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the
>         performance of a
>             member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an
>         average of
>             some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples.
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> 
>             One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the
>         performance of a
>             member link using its fixed 5-tuple, or it can measure an
>         average of
>             some or all member links of the LAG by specifying their
>         5-tuples.
> 
>     GIM>> Thank you for the question and proposed update. I agree that
>     the first occurence of "tuple" must be singular. The second, as I
>     think of how it works, is about modifying some elements of the
>     5-tuple. I would propose the following update:
> 
>     OLD TEXT:
> 
>         One STAMP test session over the LAG can measure the performance of a
>         member link with fixed five tuples, or it can measure an average of
>         some or all member links of the LAG by varying the five tuples.
> 
>     NEW TEXT:
> 
>         A STAMP test session over the LAG can be used to measure the
>     performance of a
> 
>         member link using specially-constructed 5-tuple. The session can
>     be used to measure an average of
> 
>         some or all member links of the LAG by varying one or more
>     elements  of that 5-tuple.
> 
>         -->
> 
> 
>         4) <!-- [rfced] [IEEE802.1AX] 802.1AX-2008 has been superseded
>         by 802.1AX-2014. Would you like to update the reference?
> 
>         Current:
>             [IEEE802.1AX]
>                        IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>                        networks - Link Aggregation", IEEE Std 802.1AX-2008,
>                        DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2008.4668665, November 2008,
>                        <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4668665
>         <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4668665>>.
> 
>     GIM>> Yes, please update the reference to the latest.
> 
>         -->
> 
> 
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>         Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
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> 
>     GIM>> I don't find any updates
> 
>         -->
> 
> 
>         6) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations
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>     GIM>> All expansions are correct.
> 
>         -->
> 
> 
>         Thank you.
> 
>         RFC Editor/jm
> 
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>         RFC9534 (draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-on-lag-06)
> 
>         Title            : Simple Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol
>         Extensions for Performance Measurement on LAG
>         Author(s)        : Z. Li, T. Zhou, J. Guo, G. Mirsky, R. Gandhi
>         WG Chair(s)      : Marcus Ihlar, Tommy Pauly
>         Area Director(s) : Martin Duke, Zaheduzzaman Sarker
>