Re: ISPACs
Curtis Villamizar <curtis@ans.net> Thu, 05 December 1996 02:13 UTC
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To: Tony Li <tli@jnx.com>
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Subject: Re: ISPACs
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:49:12 PST." <199611262049.MAA05750@chimp.jnx.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:42:29 -0500
From: Curtis Villamizar <curtis@ans.net>
In message <199611262049.MAA05750@chimp.jnx.com>, Tony Li writes: > > Folks, > > I'd like to point your attention to the following ID. I would appreciate > any comments. For the lack of a better place, I'd ask that discussion be > on the cidrd mailing list. > > Thanks, > Tony > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > Title : Internet Service Provider Address Coalitions (ISPACs) > Author(s) : T. Li > Filename : draft-li-ispac-00.txt > Pages : 5 > Date : 11/25/1996 Tony, I can't see how ISPACs are anything but a NOOP. If members of the ISPAC connect to different providers then aggregation can't be performed. They can get the address space and suballocate /24s to each other but if the /24s can't be aggregated and are unroutable what's the point? If the smaller providers aggregate they have to all buy transit from the same provider or agree to transit each others traffic or build their own backbone as an organization at T3 speed in order to peer with other providers as a single entity. Other than leveraging buying power what purpose does the ISPAC serve? Do we need an RFC for this? IMO ISPACs would be almost a NOOP so the RFC would be a NOOP and we have enough junk RFCs already. None of it isn't true so I certainly won't waste energy fighting this if you want to push it through. Curtis
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- Re: ISPACs Stephen Stuart
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- Re: ISPACs John W. Stewart III
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- Re: ISPACs Justin W. Newton
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- Re: ISPACs Tony Li
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- RE: ISPACs Mathew Lodge
- Re: ISPACs Tony Li
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- Re: ISPACs Tony Li
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- Re: ISPACs Paul Resnick
- Re: ISPACs Tony Li
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