Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-02 - Respond by May 18

Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Wed, 07 May 2014 19:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] WGLC for draft-ietf-dhc-sedhcpv6-02 - Respond by May 18
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There are two ways to do PMTU discovery.   One is to just send the packet, and if we get an ICMP Packet Too Big packet back, we set the path MTU to the reported size and try again.   The other is to detect it in the application layer protocol.   In this case, that would be DHCP, probably the DHCP relay agent and server.   This would be necessary in the case of a firewall that drops ICMP Packet Too Big messages.

I think it would make sense to add a recommendation in 3315bis that operators configure their firewalls to pass ICMP Packet Too Big messages.   I don't think we should go any further than that.