Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Tue, 13 June 2023 00:01 UTC

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From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal
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> On Jun 12, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> wrote:
> 
> On 9 Jun 2023, at 22:35, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You were previously talking about inserting ">" before a line starting
>> "From ", which is typically done on delivery when writing to an
>> mbox-formatted mailbox file, because in that format, "From " at the front
>> of a line has a specific meaning (i.e., "this is a new message").  If that
>> insertion is happening in transport, then a local mailbox convention is
>> leaking out into the transport environment, which means something is
>> misconfigured, and all bets are off.
>> 
>> In any case, it is not a transport conversion anticipated by the section
>> you're quoting, so I've no idea why a DKIM signer might opt to handle it
>> specially.
> 
> I’m not as definite that this is a misconfiguration, but might be a historical artifact.

Very historic - UUCP days and it didn’t come with the “>” prefix. Thats something new to perhaps mask and avoid stripping at the MDA.