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Re: [dmarc-ietf] auth-res vs. dmarc

Todd Herr <todd.herr@valimail.com> Wed, 30 December 2020 15:40 UTC

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From: Todd Herr <todd.herr@valimail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:40:15 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] auth-res vs. dmarc
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:36 AM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:

>
> On 12/30/20 7:31 AM, Todd Herr wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 8:56 AM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/30/20 5:48 AM, Todd Herr wrote:
>>
>>
>> MDAs and local clients (web and mobile) at the mailbox provider will have
>> the information they need.
>>
>> No they don't. I keep saying this, but you guys keep dismissing me.
>> Painting up "fail" for p=none is absolutely the wrong thing to do. It is
>> not what the user expects to see for a piece of mail that is perfectly
>> acceptable to the originating domain. This is an error or omission, full
>> stop.
>>
>>
>>
> I'm sorry, but I don't know that I've seen an example of painting up
> "fail" for p=none in my Gmail or Google Apps clients; it is possible you
> can share a screencap of an example of what you're referring to here,
> please?
>
>
> I already said there is a thunderbird extension called dkim-verify that
> does exactly that. It says "DMARC: fail". That is highly misleading to the
> user.
>
>
>
I see.

I wrote "MDAs and local clients (web and mobile) at the mailbox provider",
and I was referring to things such as Gmail's web client, Gmail's mobile
client, etc.

You are talking about an extension for Thunderbird, which is different from
what I'm talking about.

Thank you for the clarification.

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