Re: [DNSOP] Proposal: Whois over DNS

John Bambenek <jcb@bambenekconsulting.com> Tue, 09 July 2019 14:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Proposal: Whois over DNS
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I'm not married to any name, I chose WHOIS for historical reasons. We
can call it _hamsandwich if it builds consensus.

On 7/9/19 9:37 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
>
> I like the overall idea, but I believe we should let go the name
> WHOIS. What about "_contact" for the fields instead of "_whois" ? 
> I like the All record as an option. 
>
> I don't agree with your reasoning for this, but we can agree on
> something to be done for different reasons, too. 
>
> I understand the limitation for domains without DNS servers, or with
> DNS servers but in clientHold or serverHold status, but I don't think
> they make this less useful since in most cases where people want to be
> contacted, they have the domain up. 
>
> What are the interactions between possible record sizes, DNS
> fragmentation, DNS over TCP blocking ? This might be worthy discussing
> in the draft. 
>
>
> Rubens
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>> Em 8 de jul de 2019, à(s) 18:38:000, John Bambenek
>> <jcb=40bambenekconsulting.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>> <mailto:jcb=40bambenekconsulting.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> escreveu:
>>
>> All-
>>
>> In response to ICANN essentially removing most of the fields in WHOIS
>> for domain records, Richard Porter and myself created a draft of an
>> implementation putting these records into DNS TXT records. It would
>> require self-disclosure which mitigates the sticky issues of GDPR et
>> al. Would love to get feedback. 
>>
>> Name:        draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns
>> Revision:    01
>> Title:        Domain Contact Information (WHOIS) over DNS
>> Document date:    2019-06-30
>> Group:        Individual Submission
>> Pages:        13
>> URL:
>>            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns-01.txt
>> Status:
>>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns/
>> Htmlized:
>>       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns-01
>> Htmlized:
>>       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns
>> Diff:
>>           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-bambenek-porter-dnsop-whois-over-dns-01
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   Domain contact information over DNS provides a vehicle for
>>   exchanging contact information in a programmatic and reliable
>>   manner. DNS has a ubiquitous presence within the internet
>>   infrastructure and will act as a reliable publication method for
>>   contact information exchange. This RFC provides an agreed upon
>>   structure, voluntarily, to publish points of contact for domains.
>>
>>   This document outlines the methodology for utilizing DNS TXT records
>>   for voluntary publication of various forms of contact. The intended
>>   purpose is to provide a faster means of reliable contact for
>>   professionals, cyber-defense of domains.
>>
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