Re: [DNSOP] Proposal: Whois over DNS

John Bambenek <jcb@bambenekconsulting.com> Tue, 09 July 2019 16:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Proposal: Whois over DNS
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> Hello,
>
> John Bambenek <jcb=40bambenekconsulting.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> wrote:
> >> All whois data is PII, in the case where people register
> >> individual details, as opposed to organizational roles. I think
> >> you may need to do a bit more research on this topic, you seem to
> >> have misunderstood a thing or two.
>
> > You could set contact info to "Mail Administrator" and
> > "abuse@domain.com" and that's fine here.
>
> This does not eliminate the GDPR concerns when people fail to do
> this.
How so?
>
> > If you put personal information, that's your choice. If you put
> > role-based info, that's your choice.
>
> You can't have it both ways. Elsewhere in this thread you suggest
> that people will be coerced into providing this data, because
> otherwise their e-mail won't get delivered. Sorry, but nope.

I cannot coerce anything. I represent nothing that represents even a
molecule of the network to coerce or enforce anything. I hope incentives
will be created, and those may be purely positive incentives (mails more
likely to be delivered, etc).

To put your argument in another way, I as someone who protects uses
should NOT have information with which I could potentially reliably
block malicious individuals could be another way to frame your position.
That's a position.

>
> Thanks for all the fish,
>  - Bjarni
>