Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com> Fri, 07 May 2021 13:19 UTC

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From: Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 07 May 2021 14:18:25 +0100
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt
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On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 11:21, Pieter Lexis <pieter.lexis@powerdns.com> wrote:
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>8
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> I can see how this might be confusing to those writing zone contents and
> would support a solution that either prohibits comma's in SVCParam list
> values or a different value separator that is not allowed to be embedded
> in values.

Tim W. pointed out earlier in this thread that "those writing zone
contents" are the majority stakeholders and rarely familiar with the
finer points of DNS.
If we are inflicting confusion on these people by departing from
standard and well-understood character escapes for no other reason
than the convenience of developers, then we have our priorities
seriously wrong.


--Dick