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Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 08 February 2017 16:40 UTC

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>> to come along (.homenet?) will likely be different from any of the
>> existing ones, this strikes me as akin to asking for a pony.
>
> Some people in the discussion wanted ICANN to do something. This is
> akin to asking for an unicorn (at least, ponies do exist).

I wouldn't disagree.

>> If you just want a list of the names so your recursive resolver can
>> stub them out, we already have that, of course.
>
> URL, please, with the expected behavior of the resolver when queried
> for the domain.

It's the IANA list of special use domains:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/special-use-domain-names/special-use-domain-names.xml 
also available as CSV for the traditionally inclined.

As I said, you might want to have your resolver stub these out to prevent 
leakage if it doesn't know how to handle them.  I use unbound, where it's 
easy to turn them into "local-zone <name> always_nxdomain" which won't 
make applications very happy, but at least they won't leak.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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