Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issues)
Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Sun, 10 January 2021 19:29 UTC
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From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
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To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Subject: Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issues)
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Hi all, > On 8 Jan 2021, at 21:12, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > > --On Friday, January 8, 2021 07:30 -0800 Ned Freed > <ned.freed@mrochek.com> wrote: > >> ... >>> Consider: >> >>> 2.3.11. Mailbox and Address >>> ... >>> standard mailbox naming convention is defined to be >>> "local-part@domain"; contemporary usage permits a much >>> broader set of applications than simple "user names". >>> Consequently, and due to a long history of problems when >>> intermediate hosts have attempted to optimize transport >>> by modifying them, the local-part MUST be interpreted and >>> assigned semantics only by the host specified in the >>> domain part of the address. >> >> There's just one problem with this text: This isn't true. It >> has never been true, and no amount of repetition, compliance >> language, or anything else will make it true. > >> The obvious example, which I have pointed out many times, is >> when mailing lists have to decide whether or not a >> subscribe/unsubscribe request is a match to an address on the >> list. This means choosing whether or not other people's >> local-parts are case-sensitive. (There's also the issue of >> things like unnecessary quoting, which in the interests of my >> own sanity I'm going to ignore.) >> ... > > Ned, this may be another fork in the conversation, but... Yes, please. Let’s change subject and create a new ticket, if needed. Best Regards, Alexey, as co-chair
- [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John R. Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issue Claus Assmann
- Re: [Emailcore] Return-Path and Delivered-To issu… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issues) John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John R Levine
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Ned Freed
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… John C Klensin
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Emailcore] MDAs (was: Re: Delivered-To issue… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Emailcore] Delivered-To issues Brandon Long