RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-l o -profile-00
"Marc Berryman" <MBerryman@911.org> Fri, 15 July 2005 14:59 UTC
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To: "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:59:02 -0500
Subject: RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-l o -profile-00
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Luckily, routing is not dependent on the altitude, floor, sub-floor, or at least not with the current routing models. The routing of the call is based firmly in two dimensions. An address -123 Main -, or a coordinate pair - long, lat - both of which represent a point on the earth. Supplemental information is often needed by the responders. 3825 is well suited for this supplemental information. Information that could be very useful the to emergency responders, e.g. "Now I am at 123 Main, but which of the 23 floors did the call come from?" I'm all for leaving both in and providing all data elements to the PSAP. Let the PSAP decide which one to base their response on. Of course I am coming from the Operations side, so I may be missing the broader picture. Marc B -----Original Message----- From: geopriv-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:geopriv-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of James M. Polk Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:32 PM To: Henning Schulzrinne Cc: 'GEOPRIV'; Marc Linsner Subject: Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-l o -profile-00 Henning I wasn't claiming "mine is better", I was just defending 3825 as suitable, when more than one seemed to claim it was not. I agree we need consensus on what level of precision for each format needs to be present to satisfy certain functions (like routing to a PSAP). That seems like a meaningful discussion - and hopefully a more peaceful one ;-) At 10:22 PM 7/14/2005 -0400, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: >James M. Polk wrote: > >>However, floor names do change, and unless the build falls down, the >>number of floors doesn't - so the 3825 definition of the counting of >>floors seems the more precise (if that matters here). > >I'm not sure what "precise" means here. Also, floors do get added on occasion. > >I don't think this is a discussion that is going to get us very far. Some >people believe that recipients prefer room locations measured in geo and >in fractional floors, others have their doubts as to the practicality of >that. Experience will tell and the discussion seems to be of interest only >to about 4-5 people. > >I'd like to avoid needless complexity for the presumably common case that >both exist and would rather avoid the "mine is better" arguments in making >decisions on routability. Both need some degree of specificity to be >routable, down to house numbers for civic and probably at least 100' >anywhere on the globe for geo (whatever that translates to in terms of bits). > >Henning cheers, James ******************* Truth is not to be argued... it is to be presented. _______________________________________________ Geopriv mailing list Geopriv@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv _______________________________________________ Geopriv mailing list Geopriv@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James Winterbottom
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James Winterbottom
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Andrew Newton
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Tom Taylor
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Berryman
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Berryman
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Tim Dunn
- RE: AW:[Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW:[Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-… James M. Polk