Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-l o -profile-00
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Sat, 16 July 2005 03:01 UTC
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I don't know how to estimate this percentage, but I have a local example: Columbia University occupies part of a building called the Interchurch Building on 125th Street in Manhattan (called that since it is also occupied by the HQ offices of a number of Christian denominations). In that particular case, they are actually spread across non-adjacent floors and maybe even partial floors. We discussed other examples, such as high-security or clandestine installations in large office buildings. (The "classical" example were the offices of the ATF and CIA in the WTC.) I agree that this is not likely to be common, but not terribly difficult to support, either, should the need arise in the future. Given that z-level information is carried in both civic and geo-derived formats, I don't see much of an issue should somebody decide to factor that into making routing decisions. Henning James M. Polk wrote: > At 12:42 PM 7/15/2005 -0400, Brian Rosen wrote: > >> Henning has given examples where routing is dependent on z. One is >> where you have an enterprise, which could be a university, which has >> its own response capability. The enterprise could occupy a portion of >> a high rise. > > > ok... so what is the percentage of these cases really? > > How often will z be a factor in the routing decision? > > A tenth of a percent of all 911 calls made? > A hundreth of a percent? > a ten-thousanth of a percent? > even less of a percent? > > We're engineers who want to build an architecture as good as we can, but > we can't take the case of the above percentages of a chance to steer our > efforts. That's attempting to achieve too much without the imperical > evidence of experience to make those decisions. > > I'm a statistician by nature, and I deal in Standard Deviations, and 2 > is a good number to work towards, 3 is excellent, and 5 is unrealistic. > The percentages above are getting past 4 SDs and up towards (and past) 6 > SDs. > >> Brian > > > > cheers, > James > > ******************* > Truth is not to be argued... it is to be presented. _______________________________________________ Geopriv mailing list Geopriv@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James Winterbottom
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James Winterbottom
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Andrew Newton
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Tom Taylor
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Berryman
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Linsner
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Marc Berryman
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- RE: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… James M. Polk
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: AW: [Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf… Tim Dunn
- RE: AW:[Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-… Brian Rosen
- RE: AW:[Geopriv] Quickrandomcommentsondraft-ietf-… James M. Polk