Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson-geopriv-confidence-03
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 31 July 2013 12:45 UTC
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:45:00 +0200
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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On 31 July 2013 14:38, Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote: > The only reason to have confidence at less than 95% is to make uncertainty > appear smaller. It's marketing. That's just not true. Unless you are the entity performing location determination, it is impossible to increase confidence in location. And in the systems that the folks on this list are talking about rely on location determination that does not produce 95% confidence. This is an interoperability issue.
- [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson-geo… Laura Liess
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… James Winterbottom
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… James Winterbottom
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… g.caron@bell.ca
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… James Winterbottom
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Laura Liess
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… James Winterbottom
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Roger Marshall
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… James Winterbottom
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Laura Liess
- Re: [Geopriv] Progressing the draft draft-thomson… Martin Thomson