Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-neighbor-autodiscovery

Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 July 2018 22:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG adoption call for draft-xu-idr-neighbor-autodiscovery
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> and for those really brave:
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> * run RIFT
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You probably meant to say "for those who actually want to be able to run
something that exists". For people interested in code I can encourage
hackathon102 participation. We're aiming to got a first interop hello 3-way
up and probably ZTP :-P

Gee, that used to be all "rough consensus and running code". One got
definitiely more contentious and the other gets harder and harder to find
these days ...

Otherwise, on the issue, unsurprisingly, I fully concur with Eric,
especially it maybe quite enlightening to go through a small exercise of
trying to extend the BGP neighbor FSM with the suggested change  ...

thanks

--- tony