Re: [Idr] [GROW] draft-snijders-idr-shutdown-00: Drop a line in the peer's syslog at shutdown

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Sat, 19 November 2016 15:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] [GROW] draft-snijders-idr-shutdown-00: Drop a line in the peer's syslog at shutdown
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> On Nov 19, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
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> > What would the distinction between admin shutdown (clear) vs. info-read the friendly message be?  
> 
> Ordering ... 
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> ​You define a subcode or even new code as NOTIFICATION INFO and that is by the spec NOT to trigger the TCP reset .. before you get subsequent error code and subcode (when applicable). 

A change to use a NOTIFICATION message to *NOT* reset the TCP session is a rather large deviation from 4271.

I would not be supportive of that.

-- Jeff