Re: [Idr] [GROW] draft-snijders-idr-shutdown-00: Drop a line in the peer's syslog at shutdown

Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> Fri, 18 November 2016 00:45 UTC

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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 09:45:48 +0900
From: Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] [GROW] draft-snijders-idr-shutdown-00: Drop a line in the peer's syslog at shutdown
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 04:28:50PM +0000, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:
> I support the draft.
> I also support Jeff's idea to re-use existing sub-code(s).

Thanks for your support. Based on the feedback received so far the next
version of this draft will recycle Cease subcode 2.

> 1 possible comment: the length of the "Shutdown Communication" field
> seems implied from the length of the data field, rather than being
> explicitly indicated. 

The text is explicit about the length:

    "followed by a freeform UTF-8 encoded string with a REQUIRED maximum
    length of 128 octets. "

and further:

    "This document tries to minimize the effects of visual spoofing by
    allowing UNICODE only where local script is expected and needed, and
    by limiting the length of the Shutdown Communication."

> If so, it seems that we are closing the possibility to advertise
> additional data/usage, in some future. What about adding a TLV format?

I object to using a TLV. Don't forget this is already at a TLV level:
Cease NOTIFICATION. If one would want to define a TLV inside this TLV, a
new Cease subcode can be requested from IANA.

Kind regards,

Job