Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-large-community-03.txt (10/17/2016 to 10/31/2016)

Joe Provo <jzp-idr@rsuc.gweep.net> Sun, 23 October 2016 23:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on draft-ietf-idr-large-community-03.txt (10/17/2016 to 10/31/2016)
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On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 02:34:23PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 06:42:41PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> > We want routing policy in which networks can send 2914:X:Y to us, and we
> > can send 2914:A:B to them - very much like RFC 1997 communities. The
> > Global Administator field does not necessarily contain the ASN of the
> > sending party.
> 
> And this is, just to repeat the obvious, *intentional* and *very useful*.
> 
> Gert Doering
>         -- Operator who understands BGP

I'm just Yet Another Operator, but this, a thousand times.

Parity for the poor devils stuck with 32b ASNs is all we need - no
"enforcement" nor mandatory values. That can and should be the work
of other, more comprehensive drafts for structured signalling methods.

Cheers!

Joe

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