Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for Min Nan variants

Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> Sun, 11 February 2024 22:01 UTC

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From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
To: Winston Sung <winston21.sung@gmail.com>, "ietf-languages@iana.org" <ietf-languages@iana.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for Min Nan variants
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As I understand the past three posts:

1. The third (most recent) post, copied below, is intended as a replacement for the previous two, and supersedes them.

2. The proposed subtag value 'pehoeji' is being changed to 'vernhbl' on the assumption that someone, perhaps Winston, may propose similar subtags with values starting with 'vern' for other Min languages in the future.

Is that correct?

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From: Ietf-languages <ietf-languages-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Winston Sung
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 2:28
To: ietf-languages@iana.org
Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Forms for Min Nan variants

Hello,

below are the updated application details.

Due to the differences between different Vernacular Romanization Systems (or "Church Romanization") in different languages, the proposed variant subtags below would still not for the use of non-Hokkien languages.

Vernacular Romanization Systems "白話字" of Hakka [hak], Hainanese [proposed hnm], Teochew [proposed tws],
"平話字"/"興化平話字" for Fuzhou (Mindong [cdo]), Pu–Xian Min [cpx],
"羅馬字" for Minbei [mnp]
should propose different subtag (for example, vernhak, vernhnm, verntws) if needed.

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
%%
Type: variant
Subtag: vernhbl
Description: Hokkien Vernacular Romanization System,
 also known as Pe̍h-ōe-jī orthography/romanization
Added: 2024-xx-xx
Prefix: nan-Latn
Comments: Modern Hokkien Vernacular Romanization System,
 evolved from the New Dictionary in the Amoy by
 John Van Nest Talmage in 1894
%%

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: SUNG Chien-chang (Winston Sung / SUNG C. C. /
     Winston Chien-chang SUNG)
2. E-mail address of requester: winston21.sung @ http://gmail.com
3. Record Requested:

   Type: variant
   Subtag: vernhbl
   Description: Vernacular Romanization System of Hokkien,
  also known as Pe̍h-ōe-jī orthography/romanization
   Prefix: nan-Latn
Comments: Modern Vernacular Romanization System of Hokkien
  evolved from the New Dictionary in the Amoy by
  John Van Nest Talmage in 1894

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
   The variety of Hokkien language written forms.
%%

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
File-Date: 2024-xx-xx
%%
Type: variant
Type: variant
Subtag: tailo
Description: Taiwanese Hokkien Romanization  System for Hokkien languages,
   also known as Tâi-lô orthography/romanization
Prefix: nan-Latn
Comments: Taiwanese Hokkien Romanization System published in 2006 by the
   Taiwan Ministry of Education
%%

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM

1. Name of requester: SUNG Chien-chang (Winston Sung / SUNG C. C. /
     Winston Chien-chang SUNG)
2. E-mail address of requester: winston21.sung @ http://gmail.com
3. Record Requested:

   Type: variant
   Subtag: tailo
   Description: Taiwanese Hokkien Romanization System for Hokkien languages,
  also known as Tâi-lô orthography/romanization
   Prefix: nan-Latn
   Comments: Taiwanese Hokkien Romanization System published in 2006 by the
     Taiwan Ministry of Education

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
   The variety of Hokkien language written forms.
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