Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd: Errata #5933 for RFC8200)

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Fri, 28 February 2020 18:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd: Errata #5933 for RFC8200)
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 2/28/20 1:12 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:

> Yes, but in BSD sockets, the most common networking API, "bind" takes
> an address and port number argument, "connect" takes and address and
> port number argument, getsockname and getpeername return the
> respective pairs set on a socket. So the TCP 4-tuple is very visible
> to applications and has been for many years. If there's a better way
> to do this that hides this and makes it easier I say go for it, but
> please don't call this a solved problem until you've achieved
> ubiquitous deployment and we can obsolete the sockets API since no one
> is using it anymore.

And in particular any API that presumes that DNS will be reliable and 
have the correct address for a peer, or even that it exists at all, is 
going to suffer from a huge disconnect from reality.

The beautiful thing about only needing an address and a port (and often, 
having a default port) is that it doesn't need any higher-layer 
infrastructure to make it work.   This is a feature, not a bug.

Keith