Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd: Errata #5933 for RFC8200)

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Sat, 29 February 2020 00:29 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:29:32 -0500
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd: Errata #5933 for RFC8200)
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:12 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote:

> I've been trying to stay out of this, but...
>   Keith's comment about practices that might have many
> advantages but that also result in single points of failure may
> be a particularly relevant example.
>
>
As you both know, we designed the DNS so that it is not a single point of
failure, there is the option for redundancy.

Rail at the DNS as a single point of failure if you like. But it isn't and
I don't think people are going to start using IP addresses.

And moreover, since the vast majority of applications people decided to go
for HTTP rather than TCP as our transport protocol in recent years, and we
have multiple hosts on the same IP address, it is no longer possible to
connect to most Internet resources by IP address. And the same is true of
SMTP.

Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd: Er… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Bernard Aboba
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Tom Herbert
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Keith Moore
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Keith Moore
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joe Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Keith Moore
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Mark Andrews
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Tom Herbert
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Bernard Aboba
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Fernando Gont
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… S Moonesamy
RE: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… Larry Masinter
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Dino Farinacci
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Bernard Aboba
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joseph Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Joseph Touch
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Fernando Gont
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Joseph Touch
Re: Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture? (Fwd… S Moonesamy
[arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture?… Guntur Wiseno Putra
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
[arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture?… Guntur Wiseno Putra
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Keith Moore
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Robert Raszuk
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Tom Herbert
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… John C Klensin
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Keith Moore
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P… Joseph Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joseph Touch
Re: [arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architect… Andrew Alston
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Joseph Touch
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Andrew Alston
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
Re: [Int-area] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Archite… Fernando Gont
[arch-d] Is IPv6 End-to-End? R.I.P. Architecture?… Guntur Wiseno Putra