Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Sat, 21 September 2013 05:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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On 21/09/2013, at 11:33 AM, Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: > Cost for monitoring should be large? > > Then, protocols not have any authoritative specification and > should never be standardized and there should be no central > authority to manage different versions of the protocols. From a PRISM viewpoint, the cost of parsing different formats, understanding different wire protocols, etc. is trivial. The real cost is negotiating with / bullying each provider into giving access. Especially if it's not hosted or doing business in a country you control. >> I should be able to choose my own data sync server, whether >> it's one I run, or one run by my paranoid friend, or by a >> local company, or a US company that's in bed with the NSA. > > The only secure way is to run your own. That's a very simplistic definition of "secure." -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/
- [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-refle… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Josh Howlett
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Scott Brim
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… SM
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Paul Wouters
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Scott Brim
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Josh Howlett
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Ben Laurie