Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Fri, 20 September 2013 13:06 UTC

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(2013/09/20 21:15), Jari Arkko wrote:
> Josh, Stephen,
> 
> It is important to understand the limitations of technology in this
> discussion. We can improve communications security, and in some
> cases reduce the amount information communicated. But we cannot
> help a situation where you are communicating with a party that
> you cannot entirely trust with technology alone.

We can discourage people communicating with a party that are
under full control of USG, which is why using cloud services
should be discouraged, which is a technical issue.

						Masataka Ohta