Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Sun, 22 September 2013 20:17 UTC

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On 9/22/13 11:35 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> I like what Christian said. Also, perhaps we should figure out how to
> unbundle services and monetize what we can.
> 
> On Sep 22, 2013 1:38 PM, "Christian Huitema" <huitema@microsoft.com
> <mailto:huitema@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> 
>     >> Yes. $$$. Nobody makes much/any money off email because it is
>     >> so de-centralized. People who build wonderful new applications
>     >> build them in a centralized way so that they can control them.
>     >> And they want to control them so that they can monetize them.
>     >
>     > That is even true of the large email providers who are happy to
>     > provide "free" email in return for being able leverage their
>     > other products and/or "sell" the users and user base to
>     > advertisers.
> 
>     It is very true that innovation can only be sustained with a revenue
>     stream. But we could argue that several services have now become
>     pretty much standardized, with very little additional innovation
>     going on.

There are it most be said enormous economies of scale that are hard to
ignore.

>     Those services are prime candidates for an open and
>     distributed implementation. I mean, could a WG design a service that
>     provides a stream of personal updates and a store of pictures and is
>     only accessible to my friends? And could providers make some
>     business by selling personal servers, or maybe personal virtual
>     servers? Maybe I am a dreamer, but hey, nothing ever happens if you
>     don't dream of it!
> 
>     -- Christian Huitema
> 
>