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Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sat, 21 September 2013 17:24 UTC

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On 09/21/2013 02:42 PM, Roger Jørgensen wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I got my arm slightly twisted to produce the attached: a simple
>> concatenation of some of the actionable suggestions made in the
>> discussion of PRISM and Bruce Schneier's call for action.
> 
> There are one thing I don't see mention in your draft, the discussion
> that moved from ietf@ and over into lisp@ about encryption by default
> wherever it's possible. It's one concrete action this
> NSA/Snowden/Bruce thing has started.

FWIW, I'm also maintaining a list of concrete proposals and
relevant I-Ds that I've seen. [1] I've not noticed an I-D on
the LISP idea though but let me know if there's one I missed.

S.

[1] http://down.dsg.cs.tcd.ie/misc/perpass.txt



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