Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]
Roger Jørgensen <rogerj@gmail.com> Mon, 23 September 2013 06:48 UTC
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:48:07 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-reflections-00.txt]
From: Roger Jørgensen <rogerj@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Paul Wouters <paul@cypherpunks.ca> wrote: <snip> > Note that decentralising makes you less anonymous. If everyone runs > their own jabber service with TLS and OTR, you are less anonymous than > today. So "decentralising" is not a solution on its own for meta-data > tracking. When I'm talking about decentralizing of internet I'm talking more about the traffic flow. We are sort of already on the way there with CDN moving much used content close to the user, Microsoft updates are done this way afaik, youtube, think gmail are distributed to. I think this is mostly done due to cost and user-experience reasons. We should go further, end-users should be able to communicate with each other in a direct fasion as possible, preferable not going through central chokepoints at all. Why send a videosession between two neighbours 3000km just because they have different ISP that don't want to exchange local traffic local even they are in the same physical room with their equipment? In a rack next to each other? That is how internet in Norway are mostly done today with a very few exceptions. That means more interconnect between ISPs, more IX'es, and alot more distributed routing... ... but not sure if this is really in the IETF domain at all, is it a technical, economical or political issues that preventing this today? -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rogerj@gmail.com | - IPv6 is The Key! http://www.jorgensen.no | roger@jorgensen.no
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- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Josh Howlett
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Scott Brim
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… SM
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Masataka Ohta
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Noel Chiappa
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Paul Wouters
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Christian Huitema
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Scott Brim
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Josh Howlett
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-prismatic-r… Ben Laurie