RE: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...))

"Jeroen Massar" <jeroen@unfix.org> Wed, 02 April 2003 17:04 UTC

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From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org>
To: 'Keith Moore' <moore@cs.utk.edu>, 'Bill Manning' <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
Cc: harald@alvestrand.no, bmanning@ISI.EDU, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...))
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 19:02:39 +0200
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Keith Moore wrote:

> > 	Sounds like you both are arguing that the DNS has become
> > 	"embedded" and the applications that use IP are unusable 
> > 	without a working DNS.  
> 
> as a practical matter, this was true even in IPv4.  yes, you can
> often use address literals in either v4 or v6 apps, but this isn't
> practical for ordinary users on an ordinary basis.  and in both v4 and
> v6, several essential apps (e.g. email, the web) have explicit
> dependencies on DNS.  yes you can use address literals in email
> addresses and URLs but there is no assurance that an email address or
> URL with an address literal is equivalent to the same address or URL
> with a domain instead of the address. Both email and the web define
> their resources in relation to a DNS name, not relative to a host or
> address.
> 
> of course it is possible to write apps that do not use DNS, 
> but this is rarely done.

Fortunatly we still all are humans and like names, not numbers :)
We'll let the numbers to computers (big fast math machines)
Our brains are more advanced and just can't cope with numbers any more
;)

Greets,
 Jeroen