RE: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...))

Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com> Mon, 31 March 2003 18:04 UTC

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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:57:29 -0500
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From: Margaret Wasserman <mrw@windriver.com>
Subject: RE: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...))
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>Which actually poses an interesting question: when should an application
>just give up? IMHO, there is only one clear-cut case, i.e. when the
>application actually contacted the peer and obtained an explicit
>statement that the planned exchange should not take place -- the
>equivalent of a 4XX or 5XX error in SMTP or HTTP.

Of course, in the case of site-local addresses, you don't know for
sure that you reached the _correct_ peer, unless you know for
sure that the node you want to reach is in your site.  So, when
working from a list of addresses that includes a site-local, an
explicit refusal from the node that you reach at the site-local
address (i.e. connection reset, port unreachable, or an
application-level refusal) might not be a reason to stop working
down the list.

This is one case where the ambiguity of site-local addresses
causes problems that would not be caused by using addresses that
are globally unique, but unreachable.

I understand that a collision of site-local addresses will be
rare in autoconfigured networks.  But, in non-autoconfigured
networks, I'd still expect some proliferation of subnet == 1,
IID == 1.

Margaret