Re: v6 support (was Re: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...)))
"Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com> Thu, 03 April 2003 20:02 UTC
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From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
To: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>
Cc: John Stracke <jstracke@centive.com>, ietf@ietf.org, fredrik@packetfront.com, ipv6-fb@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: v6 support (was Re: Thinking differently about the site local problem (was: RE: site local addresses (was Re: Fw: Welcome to the InterNAT...)))
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In message <20030403115418.1681dd9f.moore@cs.utk.edu>, Keith Moore writes: >> >Then there's the problem that when a 800-pound gorilla ships code, >> >that code largely defines expectations for what will and will not >> >work in practice- often moreso than the standards themselves. >> > >> > >> Strange as I feel defending Microsoft, I actually think it's >> commendable that they implemented IPv6 at all; it's not as if there's >> a lot of market demand for it yet. > >I'm certainly glad that they've done so; however most of their >competitors are shipping v6 also, and some have been doing so for >considerably longer than MS. About the only major vendor that isn't >shipping v6 seems to be Palm (shame on them!). > Keith, I can't get upset about Microsoft declining to ship poorly-tested code. Given how many security holes are due to buggy, poorly-tested programs, I applaud anyone who takes that seriously. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me) http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of "Firewalls" book)
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