Re: Travel Considerations

["James M. Polk" <[e-mail]>]

Unfortunately, using this logic -- I can buy a tank and get 2 
gallons-to-the-mile mileage because the rest of the planet (or at 
least America) is still buying SUVs that get horrible mileage too, 
since there will be nearly an unmeasurable difference to global 
warming if I drive my tank or not... so why not drive it anyway.

There is an individual responsibility to change what we each can 
change to help.  As an organization, we can have a greater positive 
affect if we reduce demand for such spoke flights by only flying to 
hub sites of major airlines -- if we're going to continue to meet in person.

If other organizations see ours as an example, and do the same, then 
the positive affect is greater on us doing the right thing...

Doing the right thing in mass has to start somewhere -- why does it 
have to start somewhere else here?

It's Friday...

At 01:30 PM 10/12/2007, Dan Harkins wrote:

>   You're assuming that if 1000 people decide not to fly to Prague
>some weekend that the number of planes burning jet fuel to fly there
>will be different. I don't think so.
>
>   Maybe you can start a "Boycott Prague The Spoke City" campaign which,
>if wildly successful, will reduce demand to fly there by some discernable
>amount and thereby reduce the number of planes flying there and the amount
>of jet fuel they would've burned. Well, as long as the planes that aren't
>flying to Prague aren't used to fly to Heathrow or Frankfurt or some other
>hub city. Also doubtful.
>
>   I do not intend on making ietf-discuss into a forum for discussing
>the pluses and minuses resulting from a degree centigrade temperature
>change but let me just say that "the planet wins" is a somewhat dubious
>statement.
>
>   Dan.
>
>On Fri, October 12, 2007 7:32 am, Eric Burger wrote:
> > Here is an interesting optimization problem: it turns out the most
> > polluting part of a conference is people taking jets to fly to the
> > conference.  Minimize that and the planet wins.  Favors hub cities over
> > spokes, like San Diego or Prague, where you "can't get there from here",
> > no matter where "here" is.
> >
> > See http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/318/5847/36.pdf
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