Re: Registration open for IETF 114

[Behcet Sarikaya <[e-mail]>]

On Mon, May 9, 2022 at 1:52 PM John C Klensin <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Alexa,
>
> Understood.
> Thanks
>    john
>
>
> --On Monday, May 9, 2022 10:31 -0700 Alexa Morris
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> >> On May 9, 2022, at 8:19 AM, John C Klensin
> >> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --On Monday, May 9, 2022 09:59 -0500 Behcet Sarikaya
> >> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:43 PM Ross Finlayson
> >>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 5, 2022, at 9:57 AM, IETF Executive Director <
> >>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The IETF 114 meeting venue is at the Sheraton Philadelphia
> >>>>> Downtown.  As
> >>>> explained in the FAQ, you will need to register before you
> >>>> can reserve a guest room at the venue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Strictly speaking, this does not appear to be correct.  The
> >>>> link that I was sent to me (after I registered for the IETF)
> >>>> to reserve a guest room was not specific to my IETF
> >>>> registration.  While it gave me the IETF-discounted room
> >>>> rate, it would have worked for anyone, even if they hadn't
> >>>> registered for the IETF.
> >>>>
> >>>> For other on-site IETF meetings (before Covid), the link to
> >>>> reserve a hotel guest room (at the IETF-discounted room
> >>>> rate) was included in the IETF "Registration open" email.
> >>>> This allowed people to reserve an IETF-hotel room (often a
> >>>> scarce resource) early, while deferring actually
> >>>> registering for the IETF.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not including the hotel room link in the "Registration
> >>>> open" email appears to be an (understandable) ploy to get
> >>>> as many paid IETF registrations as early as possible.
> >>
> >>> Last time early registration carried a much bigger  discount
> >>> than this time. That is my only real concern.
> >>
> >> I'd add one.  With online meetings prior to the pandemic, the
> >> meeting page(s) listed alternate hotels and similar facilities
> >> in the vicinity of the venue, ones that had been at least
> >> minimally checked out in venue site visits.  Apparently, this
> >> time, not only is the main hotel not heavily discounted, but
> >> people looking for other options are apparently completely on
> >> their own.  I can guess at some of the reasons for the former,
> >> starting with lower and more uncertain attendee numbers but
> >> less so for the latter.
> >
> >
> > You're correct that pre-pandemic the IETF usually contracted
> > with one or two additional local properties. Typically this
> > was done to provide a less expensive alternative to the main
> > IETF venue. However in more recent years we observed that
> > these alternative venues were poorly-utilized and it was
> > decided that the very minimal number of bookings did not
> > justify the substantial amount of administrative effort
> > required, except in those cases where the main room block was
> > either very expensive, or insufficient in size.
> >
> > Happily, the IETF 114 meeting venue (Sheraton Philadelphia
> > Downtown) has offered the IETF a very reasonable rate ($190
> > USD) so we expect that most people will opt to stay there, and
> > accordingly we have a sizable room block.
> >
> > Finally, the hotel room discount that Behcet referred to was
> > unique to Vienna, where the first 400 guest room reservations
> > were at a highly discounted rate. It's highly unlikely that we
> > will see something like that again.
> >
>


Thanks Alexa :).

Behcet

> > Best,
> > Alexa
> >
> >>
> >>   john
> >
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