Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-variance-00.txt
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Sun, 29 March 2020 16:14 UTC
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To: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-variance-00.txt
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Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> wrote: >> I think it's perfectly reasonable to publish a BCP for a one-time >> variance. On the other hand I think it's a Very Bad Idea to invent a >> lightweight variance procedure that allows for process exceptions that >> aren't documented in the normal means, and which fragment the historical >> record. Though I don't doubt anyone's intentions here, a lightweight >> variance procedure will sooner or later inevitably be misused. Also, >> it's never a great idea to hurriedly invent new process when doing so can >> be avoided. > If you read my draft, you'll notice that for all intents and purposes, > all of I read it now. > the procedures of publishing a BCP are required anyway: It requires a written > draft, a minimum 4-week last call, and a conclusion of consensus by the > IESG. The only thing that is different is that it doesn't require publication > as an RFC, addition to the BCP series, or an additional RFC or moving it to > Historic when it no longer applies (because, as the draft says, it can't last > longer than a year without actually publishing a BCP). So I don't see what > the misuse vector you're seeing is. I would be happier if the variance was recorded as more than an Internet-Draft. I understand the desire not to issue an RFC/BCP, and certainly not to wait for the RFC-EDITOR to process it. I suggest that the errata process be used. In particular, should the document ever get revised, then the one-time variance would get recorded as an appendix. If any other RFCs were published as a result of the variance (i.e. if the variance was a suspension of some other publication rule), then those documents would need to indicate this case. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [
- Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-v… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Pete Resnick
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-resni… Keith Moore
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-resni… Adam Roach
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Barry Leiba
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-resni… Keith Moore
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Keith Moore
- Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-resni… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Keith Moore
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… S Moonesamy
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Keith Moore
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… S Moonesamy
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Keith Moore
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-resnick-va… Spencer Dawkins at IETF