RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json-text-sequence-09
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From: "Black, David" <david.black@emc.com>
To: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Subject: RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json-text-sequence-09
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This looks good, and the explanation of what's going on (numbers, 'true', 'false' and 'null' lack delimiters) is a useful addition. One small nit: '<RS>truefales<RS>' is not two top-level values, 'true', and 'false'; it is simply not a valid JSON text. truefales -> truefalse Thanks, --David > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:49:35PM +0000, Black, David wrote: > > > So I think we really do need to say something about top-level numbers > > > (and true, false, and null), namely: that they must be delimited by > > > whitespace, that '<RS>1234<RS>' is not a valid sequence element because > > > the number may have been truncated. (Ditto '<RS>true<RS>', since the > > > intended text could have been 'trueish', which is invalid of course, but > > > still.) > > > > That would be more robust, as then all JSON texts in a sequence have > > delimiters and absence of the closing delimiter clearly indicates > > truncation. > > OK. > > New section 2.4 text: > > While objects, arrays, and strings are self-delimited in JSON texts, > numbers, and the values 'true', 'false', and 'null' are not. Only > whitespace can delimit the latter four kinds of values. > > Parsers MUST check that any JSON texts that are a top-level number, > or which might be 'true', 'false', or 'null' include JSON whitespace > (at least one byte matching the "ws" ABNF rule from RFC7159) after > that value, otherwise the JSON-text may have been truncated. Note > that the LF following each JSON text matches the "ws" ABNF rule. > > Parsers MUST drop JSON-text sequence elements consisting of > non-self-delimited top-level values that may have been truncated > (that are not delimited by whitespace). Parsers can report such > texts as warnings (including, optionally, the parsed text and/or the > original octet string). > > For example, '<RS>123<RS>' might have been intended to carry the > top-level number 123.4, but must have been truncated. Similarly, > '<RS>true<RS>' might have been intended to carry the invalid text > 'trueish'. '<RS>truefales<RS>' is not two top-level values, 'true', > and 'false'; it is simply not a valid JSON text. > > This is the only place where the ws rule comes up, so merely saying "at > least one byte matching" it should suffice. > > I'm also adding this following the above, based on your comment about > incremental parsers: > > Implementations may produce a value when parsing '<RS>"foo"<RS>' > because their JSON text parser might be able to consume bytes > incrementally, and since the JSON text in this case is a > self-delimiting top-level value, the parser can produce the result > without consuming an additional byte. Such implementations should > skip to the next RS byte, possibly reporting any intervening > non-whitespace bytes. > > (yes, I think this should be a 'should', not a 'SHOULD'). > > Nico > --
- Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json-tex… Black, David
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Barry Leiba
- RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Black, David
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John Levine
- Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir re… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Status of RFC 20 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… l.wood
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… l.wood
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Dave Cridland
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Barry Leiba
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Patrik Fältström
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Status of RFC 20 Carsten Bormann
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: Status of RFC 20 joel jaeggli
- Re: Status of RFC 20 John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 joel jaeggli
- RE: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Black, David
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Tim Bray
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… John Cowan
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… John Cowan
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Nico Williams
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Nico Williams
- Integrity protection for RFCs (was Re: Status of … Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: Status of RFC 20 Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Nico Williams
- Re: Integrity protection for RFCs (was Re: Status… manning bill
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… Patrik Fältström
- Re: Cited documents, was Status of RFC 20 John Levine
- RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Black, David
- Re: Cited documents, was Status of RFC 20 Dave Crocker
- Re: Cited documents, was Status of RFC 20 Nico Williams
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… John Cowan
- Re: Status of RFC 20 Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Nico Williams
- RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Black, David
- Re: Cited documents, was Status of RFC 20 Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Cited documents, was Status of RFC 20 John C Klensin
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Nico Williams
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Nico Williams
- RE: Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ietf-json… Black, David
- Re: [Json] Gen-ART and OPS-Dir review of draft-ie… John Cowan
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… Julian Reschke
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… ned+ietf
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… ned+ietf
- Re: Status of RFC 20 (was: Re: Gen-ART and OPS-Di… John C Klensin