Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 08 April 2019 15:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document
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a knowledgeable person tells in private we could share the document in a 
peer-to-peer manner.  I thank.

but there is still no free access to the IEEE 802.11-2016 document, so I 
keep "Description freely available" and I do not put "document freely 
available".

I will check back tomorrow.

Alex

Le 08/04/2019 à 16:35, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
> Carsten,
> 
> Le 08/04/2019 à 16:17, Carsten Bormann a écrit :
>> On Apr 8, 2019, at 15:02, Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
>> <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> For all I know, IEEE documents are generally available for free 6
>>> months after the publication.
>>
>> (This is true specifically for IEEE 802 documents through the get802
>> program, and a few other places they have seen the light.  Generally,
>> IEEE’s business model is still largely based on selling documents.)
> 
> I can agree with the principle.
> 
> In this particular case, is it too much that I ask you to please
> download this 802.11-2016 document
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995
> 
> If you already have an account via an organisation, please remove it
> from the Options of your browser (so it does not pre-fill the form with
> some password) and try to follow the IEEE procedure to maybe make a new 
> one.
> 
> If you access IEEE via an organisation's IP address (so your
> organisation's name is seen at the top of the page) then try to access
> it from home, or from smartphone.
> 
> If you think the IEEE GET Program gives some additional access ("With
> support from the IEEE-SA, industry sponsors, and government, a number of
> IEEE standards are available for download at no cost.  This program,
> entitled IEEE GET ProgramTM, grants public access to view and/or
> download these current individual standards.) please go to its URL
> and see that they list 802.11 but then it points to the same URL as at
> the beginning of this email, so cant download.
> 
> If it is too much to ask, sorry.
> 
> (I already asked a co-author to do this - no answer; and another
> knowledgeable person just now doubts in private the availability
> statements).
> 
> Alex
>