Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. of gateway)

Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 26 March 2010 05:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. of gateway)
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Hi Kaz,

I *thought* my intention was clear: "between gateways" as opposed to 
"between clients and gateways". So your assertion is correct.

Thanks,
	Yaron

On 26.3.2010 1:40, Kaz Kobara wrote:
> Hi Yaron
>
>> draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt says in Page 4
>> "This document is limited to the use of password-based authentication to
>> achieve trust between gateways"
>
> I would like to make sure that
> "gateway" in this document does not encompass VPN clients and hosts, right?
>
> Kaz
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>> Yaron Sheffer
>> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:31 AM
>> To: SeongHan Shin
>> Cc: IPsecme WG; Kazukuni Kobara
>> Subject: Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted
>>
>> Hi Shin,
>>
>> Yes. For the typical remote access VPN, EAP is typically more useful.
>> Note that there is still need for strong password-based mutual
>> authentication EAP methods - but their home is the EMU working group.
>>
>> In addition, the IPsecME has another charter item designed to fit such
>> EAP methods (such as the future EAP-AugPAKE :-) into IKEv2.
>>
>> Please see again the group's charter,
>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ipsecme/charters.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> 	Yaron
>>
>> On 25.3.2010 20:07, SeongHan Shin wrote:
>>> Dear Yaron Sheffer,
>>>
>>> I have one question about the draft.
>>>
>>> draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt says in Page 4
>>> "This document is limited to the use of password-based authentication
>> to
>>> achieve trust between gateways"
>>>
>>> Is this a consensus of this WG?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Shin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Yaron Sheffer<yaronf.ietf@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi,
>>>
>>>      after the good discussion in Anaheim, and with the help of comments
>>>      received on and off the list, I have updated the PAKE Criteria draft
>>>      and posted it as
>>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt.
>>>
>>>      I have added a number of criteria, clarified others, and added
>>>      numbering (SEC1-SEC6, IPR1-IPR3 etc.).
>>>
>>>      Thanks,
>>>          Yaron
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