Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. of gateway)
Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 26 March 2010 05:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. of gateway)
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Hi Kaz, I *thought* my intention was clear: "between gateways" as opposed to "between clients and gateways". So your assertion is correct. Thanks, Yaron On 26.3.2010 1:40, Kaz Kobara wrote: > Hi Yaron > >> draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt says in Page 4 >> "This document is limited to the use of password-based authentication to >> achieve trust between gateways" > > I would like to make sure that > "gateway" in this document does not encompass VPN clients and hosts, right? > > Kaz > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ipsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Yaron Sheffer >> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:31 AM >> To: SeongHan Shin >> Cc: IPsecme WG; Kazukuni Kobara >> Subject: Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted >> >> Hi Shin, >> >> Yes. For the typical remote access VPN, EAP is typically more useful. >> Note that there is still need for strong password-based mutual >> authentication EAP methods - but their home is the EMU working group. >> >> In addition, the IPsecME has another charter item designed to fit such >> EAP methods (such as the future EAP-AugPAKE :-) into IKEv2. >> >> Please see again the group's charter, >> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ipsecme/charters. >> >> Thanks, >> Yaron >> >> On 25.3.2010 20:07, SeongHan Shin wrote: >>> Dear Yaron Sheffer, >>> >>> I have one question about the draft. >>> >>> draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt says in Page 4 >>> "This document is limited to the use of password-based authentication >> to >>> achieve trust between gateways" >>> >>> Is this a consensus of this WG? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Shin >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Yaron Sheffer<yaronf.ietf@gmail.com >>> <mailto:yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> after the good discussion in Anaheim, and with the help of comments >>> received on and off the list, I have updated the PAKE Criteria draft >>> and posted it as >>> >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sheffer-ipsecme-pake-criteria-02.txt. >>> >>> I have added a number of criteria, clarified others, and added >>> numbering (SEC1-SEC6, IPR1-IPR3 etc.). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Yaron >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IPsec mailing list >>> IPsec@ietf.org<mailto:IPsec@ietf.org> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> SeongHan Shin >>> Research Center for Information Security (RCIS), >>> National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology (AIST), >>> Room no. 1003, Akihabara Daibiru 10F, >>> 1-18-13, Sotokannda, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 101-0021 Japan >>> Tel : +81-3-5298-2722 >>> Fax : +81-3-5298-4522 >>> E-mail : seonghan.shin@aist.go.jp<mailto:seonghan.shin@aist.go.jp> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> IPsec mailing list >> IPsec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec > > > _______________________________________________ > IPsec mailing list > IPsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipsec
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Kaz Kobara
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Kaz Kobara
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Kaz Kobara
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Dan Harkins
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Kaz Kobara
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Kaz Kobara
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Paul Hoffman
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Tero Kivinen
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Raj Singh
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Raj Singh
- Re: [IPsec] New PAKE Criteria draft posted (def. … Yaron Sheffer