Re: [IPv6] Adoption call for draft-bctb-6man-rfc6296-bis

Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Wed, 20 March 2024 14:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IPv6] Adoption call for draft-bctb-6man-rfc6296-bis
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Tim,

>> Agreed, happiness should not determine success. From what I have seen (which is admittedly limited) moving from experimental to a "higher level" RFC is typically accompanied by something like a deployment status document, e.g. the SRv6 deployment status doc here https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status
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>> I think it's really important  to distinguish between "this draft solves a problem" and "this draft solves a problem that can't be solved already" and "this experiment has succeed and we can promote the document to informational or standards-track."
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>> I think we can all agree that this draft solves a problem. I think it solves exactly one problem: allowing sites to keep stable internal addressing in the face of renumbering by ISPs and/or changing ISPs.
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>> However, this problem can be addressed the way 7084 currently solves it: by numbering the internal network with a stable ULA and hosting services on addresses within that ULA rather than on a temporary GUA provided by the ISP.
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> Which is an interesting observation on the 6724-update discussion - in this approach you’re suggesting the internal device has only a ULA, and no GUA, so there’s stability without the need to choose an address pair ULA-ULA or GUA-GUA.  The question though is on that device’s addressability from elsewhere, and how that is achieved and at what cost.

How do you ensure a device with an ephemeral global address is addressable from elsewhere now?

Cheers,
Ole