Re: Generic anycast addresses...

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 30 May 2019 17:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: Generic anycast addresses...
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:02:53 -0700
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Thanks, Sander (and everyone else!).   I’m somewhat inclined to just write a document that specifies a prefix to use for site-scoped anycast addresses.   This would give us a document to which to propose changes.   I think that the discussion thus far has been productive.   The point of this is not to override the work that Mark is doing.   It’s just to do a bite-sized chunk that has a clear use case.   I’m not convinced the WG will adopt it, but unless somebody has something new to add, I think what needs to be said has been said.

I think the two spaces out of which this could come would be fec0::/10 (site-local) and fc00://8 (the undefined block of the ULA prefix, fc00/7).   I don’t have a strong opinion on this; the arguments against using site-local that I can think of are:
People might still be using it (that’s okay, this is a new application)
GIven that it’s been deprecated for a long time, nobody is using it, so we should just mark it available for allocation, and then this isn’t the right use for it (I think this is a good argument against, in theory, but don’t have any personal opinion on whether it is correct).
Site-local addresses would in fact be routed onto the backbone (I think this is a bad argument against, but maybe I’m wrong).

The argument against fc00::/8 that I can think of is simply that we should leave it available for future use as originally intended.   I think you can’t argue that it shouldn’t be used because it might be routed on the backbone, because if that’s true, it’s a violation of current expected practice and should be fixed.

Of course, the other argument against this is simply that we shouldn’t do it, but I haven’t actually heard anyone say that, so that’s encouraging.

Thanks very much for the discussion!