Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt]
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Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 22:39:14 -0800
From: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt]
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Hi, ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> > To: Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2014 6:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt] > > EUI-64 came first; it's used by Firewire and there was some expectation > that Firewire would become very important, or in general that EUI-64 > would come to replace EUI-48. > > But maybe someone who has Christian's book could send a paraphrase > of his explanation. > Just catching up on the list, will do so if it hasn't already been done (actually dug it up to do off-list a week or so ago, but will do it on-list now). Regards, Mark. > Regards > Brian > > On 09/01/2014 05:19, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: >> Le 06/01/2014 21:51, Mark ZZZ Smith a écrit : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've had a quick read through, I think this document would be quite >>> useful. >>> >>> One thing I think would be good to capture is a bit of the >>> history/rational behind the choice of 64 IID. >>> >>> I became aware of that history via Christian Huitema's "IPv6: > The >>> New Internet Protocol (2nd Edition)" book, I think it would be > good >>> if that history was a bit more widely available to explain and >>> justify the choice. >> >> Hi, >> >> I dont have the book handy, but I would be interested to learn about how >> this 64bit length came to life. I remember some discussions of an > 'h' >> factor. >> >> I suppose IEEE's EUI-64 design history is related, maybe because >> triggered by same fear of address space depletion (48bit identifiers); >> knowing that one may see how would an EUI-128 influence in any way IPv6 >> addressing. >> >> Alex >> >>> >>> Regards, Mark. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> To: > 6man >>>> <ipv6@ietf.org> Cc: Sent: Monday, 6 January 2014 9:07 AM > Subject: >>>> [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt] >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> A group of us put this together following a discussion some weeks >>>> ago on the v6ops list about the 64-bit boundary in IPv6 addresses. >>>> Discussion belongs in 6man, please. >>>> >>>> This draft is incomplete but we'd welcome input. Let me > underline >>>> an important comment in the introduction: >>>> >>>> _The purpose of this document is to analyse the issues around this >>>> question. We make no proposal for change, but we do analyse the >>>> possible effects of a change._ >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian + co-authors >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: >>>> draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:59:17 >>>> -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: >>>> internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>>> >>>> >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> >>>> >>>> Title : Analysis of the 64-bit Boundary in IPv6 >>>> Addressing Authors : Brian Carpenter Tim Chown Fernando >>>> Gont Sheng Jiang Alexandru Petrescu Andrew Yourtchenko Filename : >>>> draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt Pages : 14 Date : >>>> 2014-01-05 >>>> >>>> Abstract: The IPv6 unicast addressing format includes a separation >>>> between the prefix used to route packets to a subnet and the >>>> interface identifier used to specify a given interface connected >>>> to that subnet. Historically the interface identifier has been >>>> defined as 64 bits long, leaving 64 bits for the prefix. This >>>> document discusses the reasons for this fixed boundary and the >>>> issues involved in treating it as a variable boundary. >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-why64/ >>>> >>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >>>> ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative >>> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >> ipv6@ietf.org >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… George Michaelson
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-car… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Ray Hunter
- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith