Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt]
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 08 January 2014 12:17 UTC
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Le 07/01/2014 12:11, Ray Hunter a écrit : [...] > Where exactly is the requirement that IPv6 has to use /64 prefix > length really enshrined? Simply put, I agree with Brian that there is no one single specification place where this could be found enshrined. But a huge devil lies in details I dare uncover just a bit here. First, key places like the Addressing Architecture and SLAAC RFCs generally read as avoiding setting rigid limits on the prefix length or the Interface ID. For example the subnet prefix is said to be of length 'n', and the Interface ID of length '128-n'. But even there in RFC4291 there is a quirk saying: > For all unicast addresses, except those that start with the binary > value 000, Interface IDs are required to be 64 bits long and to be > constructed in Modified EUI-64 format. (not sure what that 000 means). Then, an IP address being of fixed length, the prefix length could be inferred by looking at the length of the Interface ID, or other identifiers which look like it (e.g. an anycast IID). If that length is rigid, one may legitimately suppose strict limits on the prefix length as well. The IP-over-Ethernet RFC is precise in its limit of 64bit for the Interface ID. The success of its deployment made it so that others copy on it, together with that rigid limit. Today, not only Ethernet Interface IDs are precisely 64bit, but also WiFi, and, more surprisingly even 802.15.4 (surprisingly because even its short address on 16bit leads to an Interface ID on 64bits - 3rd par, sec 6 RFC 4944). Worse, other links which are not even documented as IP-over-foo RFCs do implement that 64bit limit although nobody requires them to. As for implementation enshrinment places there are many. One easy to spot is dmesg on modern linux upon reception of an RA containing a prefix whose length is 65, or 63 if one so wishes. Decimal. Alex
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… George Michaelson
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-car… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Ray Hunter
- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith