Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt]
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 08 January 2014 19:17 UTC
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EUI-64 came first; it's used by Firewire and there was some expectation that Firewire would become very important, or in general that EUI-64 would come to replace EUI-48. But maybe someone who has Christian's book could send a paraphrase of his explanation. Regards Brian On 09/01/2014 05:19, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Le 06/01/2014 21:51, Mark ZZZ Smith a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I've had a quick read through, I think this document would be quite >> useful. >> >> One thing I think would be good to capture is a bit of the >> history/rational behind the choice of 64 IID. >> >> I became aware of that history via Christian Huitema's "IPv6: The >> New Internet Protocol (2nd Edition)" book, I think it would be good >> if that history was a bit more widely available to explain and >> justify the choice. > > Hi, > > I dont have the book handy, but I would be interested to learn about how > this 64bit length came to life. I remember some discussions of an 'h' > factor. > > I suppose IEEE's EUI-64 design history is related, maybe because > triggered by same fear of address space depletion (48bit identifiers); > knowing that one may see how would an EUI-128 influence in any way IPv6 > addressing. > > Alex > >> >> Regards, Mark. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> To: 6man >>> <ipv6@ietf.org> Cc: Sent: Monday, 6 January 2014 9:07 AM Subject: >>> [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt] >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A group of us put this together following a discussion some weeks >>> ago on the v6ops list about the 64-bit boundary in IPv6 addresses. >>> Discussion belongs in 6man, please. >>> >>> This draft is incomplete but we'd welcome input. Let me underline >>> an important comment in the introduction: >>> >>> _The purpose of this document is to analyse the issues around this >>> question. We make no proposal for change, but we do analyse the >>> possible effects of a change._ >>> >>> >>> Brian + co-authors >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: >>> draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 13:59:17 >>> -0800 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: >>> internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> >>> >>> Title : Analysis of the 64-bit Boundary in IPv6 >>> Addressing Authors : Brian Carpenter Tim Chown Fernando >>> Gont Sheng Jiang Alexandru Petrescu Andrew Yourtchenko Filename : >>> draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.txt Pages : 14 Date : >>> 2014-01-05 >>> >>> Abstract: The IPv6 unicast addressing format includes a separation >>> between the prefix used to route packets to a subnet and the >>> interface identifier used to specify a given interface connected >>> to that subnet. Historically the interface identifier has been >>> defined as 64 bits long, leaving 64 bits for the prefix. This >>> document discusses the reasons for this fixed boundary and the >>> issues involved in treating it as a variable boundary. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-6man-why64/ >>> >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list >>> ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative >> Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-00.t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… George Michaelson
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Lorenzo Colitti
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- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Ray Hunter
- Re: Zillions of addresses [Fwd: I-D Action: draft… Tim Chown
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Emmanuel Thierry
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- RE: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-why64-… Mark ZZZ Smith