RE: Interested in wireless ?

Pascal, when using the OMNI interface for wireless there is no need for changes
to ND and no need for multilink subnets:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-omni-interface/

There is an adoption call in the queue for OMNI.

Thanks - Fred

> Dear chairs;
> 
> We have had a long thread on the adoption of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless.
> I have seen only supporting comments, and even a path for a proper RFC type indicated by Brian below.
> But I have not seen the action on your part.
> 
> It would be nice to make the call for adoption now so we could discuss the result at one of the IETF virtual meetings.
> What do you think?
> 
> Pascal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> > Sent: lundi 1 juin 2020 01:21
> > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com>
> > Cc: 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
> > Subject: Re: Interested in wireless ?
> >
> > Pascal,
> >
> > There is a category of standards track documents foreseen in RFC2026 called
> > "applicability statements", described at
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-3.2
> >
> > I think that is perhaps where your draft could fit. A little bit stronger than
> > Informational and little bit different than Best *Current* Practice.
> >
> > Regards
> >    Brian
> >
> > On 01-Jun-20 04:40, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
> > > Hello Brian
> > >
> > > We may have to split the doc but for the most part I agree it is an
> > informational.
> > >
> > > For now I suggest to just change the intended status accordingly and aim at
> > BCP or something.
> > >
> > > Let’s discuss in parallel the coexistence and if there’s a need for an std track
> > somewhere. There’s at least the use of a 6LBR for address looking up in
> > unicast.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > Pascal
> > >
> > >> Le 30 mai 2020 à 22:47, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> > a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I believe that this is an important topic that 6MAN should take up. The draft
> > is a good basis.
> > >>
> > >> At the moment I find the draft a bit confusing in one way. It's aimed at
> > standards track, but it mainly doesn't read like a standard. There's a lot of
> > discussion but not much specification. If I was a coder, I wouldn't really know
> > where to start. For example, the end of the Introduction says:
> > >>
> > >> "This document discusses the applicability of IPv6 ND over wireless
> > >> links, as compared with routing-based alternatives such as prefix-per
> > >> node and multi-link subnets (MLSN), and with Wireless ND (WiND), that
> > >> is similar to the Wi-Fi association and reduces the need for
> > >> Network-Layer multicast."
> > >>
> > >> If it's a standard, IMHO it shouldn't do that. It should specify what WiND is,
> > with normative references as needed. Section 5 is the important part. It's fine
> > to have a descriptive section about why WiND is needed, but that is almost
> > better as an appendix. The main text should be essentially the instructions for a
> > kernel programmer.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>   Brian Carpenter
> > >>
> > >>> On 30-May-20 23:46, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
> > >>> Dear all
> > >>>
> > >>> Since there’s so much energy on the list these days, could we
> > >>> consider the adoption of
> > >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6man-ipv6-over-wireless-05
> > >>> ?
> > >>>
> > >>> I got only positive feedback, there’s no politics, there no label, it’s all about
> > IPv6 models for wireless. This may appear useful in a world where the vast
> > majority of devices are connected that way.
> > >>>
> > >>> Keep safe,
> > >>>
> > >>> Pascal
> > >>>
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