Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) to Flash Renumbering Events"

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 07 July 2020 14:11 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Subject: Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) to Flash Renumbering Events"
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 10:11:07 -0400
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To: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
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It might be worth thinking about how it would be different than the current behavior, when stale information is present and new, valid information is being advertised but not reliably heard. Do things get worse or better with this change?

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 06:34, Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's my main concern. In multiple RA scenario the proposed mechanism
> does not seem to be resilient to packet loss