Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) to Flash Renumbering Events"
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 13 July 2020 00:51 UTC
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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness of Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) to Flash Renumbering Events"
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Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: > That is a really odd construction Brian. If the authors are not willing to > make the change, then if the document is to be adopted with a change the > working group is asking for, the WG will have to find a new set of > editors. I'm okay with this. We don't add consensus building authors/editors often enough. > While again technically allowed, it is not what authors usually mean when > they ask a working group to adopt their document. > But focusing on the fact that technically the document is not yet in the WGs > hands seems to miss the point of the process. Which is for the IETF to end > up with a document the IETF supports. So I find your arguments confusing. We adopt documents so that we can put them on the agenda. That's all. Over 15+ years, we have confused adoption with WGLC. It has to stop. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness of St… Bob Hinden
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Gyan Mishra
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Gyan Mishra
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Gyan Mishra
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Tim Chown
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustne… xiechf@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Tim Chown
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Sander Steffann
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Nick Hilliard
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Philip Homburg
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Mark Smith
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Erik Kline
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Loganaden Velvindron
- RE: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Philip Homburg
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Jen Linkova
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Ted Lemon
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Adoption [was: Re: Adoption Call for "Improving t… otroan
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Adoption Call for "Improving t… Manfredi (US), Albert E
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Michael Richardson
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Erik Kline
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Philip Homburg
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Adoption Call for "Improving t… Fernando Gont
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Adoption Call for "Improving t… jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com
- Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving the Ro… Bob Hinden
- Re: Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving th… Fernando Gont
- Re: Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving th… Bob Hinden
- Re: Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving th… Ted Lemon
- Re: Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving th… Bob Hinden
- Re: Conclusion of Adoption Call for "Improving th… Fernando Gont
- Re: Adoption Call for "Improving the Robustness o… Fernando Gont