Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size
Rene Bartsch <ietf@bartschnet.de> Thu, 31 October 2013 13:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size
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Am 2013-10-30 16:31, schrieb Luigi Iannone: > Hi All, > > I was thinking that may be it is worth to (re)open the discussion > about the EID block size. > > Currently we are requesting a /16 and asking to reserve the /12 > covering it. This was the outcome from the WG consensus, hence, it has > not been changed in the document. > > Yet, one of the main critics during the review was about the size of > the block which seems too large. > > Any thought about a change in the requested EID block size? > > Should we keep it as it is? > Should we shrink it? How much? > To which document are you referring? draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-06.txt proposes /16 with /12 reserved. Having the possibility to establish global, provider-independant network-roaming for consumers with LISP, a /16 with 2^32 /48 will not suffice for each natural person on this planet. We already will have to assign /56 to natural persons and bigger prefixes to corporate entities with /16 only. In fact I'm already considering the requirements for global, provider-independant network-roaming for consumers. In short: 1. Assignments of EID-prefixes should for lifetime, provider-independent and remain in force when EID-prefix-bearers change the RIR region. 2. Each natural person can register ONE /56 EID block (256 possible /64 subnets should suffice for a natural person). 3. Corporate entities can register a reasonable EID-prefix based on their size, infrastructure and expected growth. 4. LIRs can charge a reasonable fee once but MUST NOT recharge fees. The fee should be low enough to allow any natural person to register a EID-prefix. 5. Bearer of EID-prefixes can select any Map Server service or run it themselves to encourage reasonable fees by competition. And I think /16 is a good start. If LISP fails, the /16 will be usable again in 6 years. If it succeeds, IANA will have to hurry assigning the /12 block! ;-) AVM-routers will provide LISP-clients for 50% of the german and 20% of the european internet-sockets until end of the year. LISPmob provides support for Linux and Android (although Android still requires rooting). Regards, Renne
- [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size George Michaelson
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Noel Chiappa
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Sander Steffann
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Paul Vinciguerra
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Paul Vinciguerra
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Geoff Huston
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Darrel Lewis (darlewis)
- Re: [lisp] LISP EID Block Size Rene Bartsch